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[QUOTE=&quot;Piggie, post: 32867, member: 2941&quot;]I have always like loop antennas, and thought the idea behind the tapered loop was an interesting twist on the tapered dipole antenna, we used to make for more bandwidth on 80 and 40 meters.&nbsp; Two idea from the past incorporated into a new design. I always like that idea. It's not the antenna, your design or the engineering that causes me trouble. It is the marketing and even you stated above:We can call it semantics, but to me the C1,2,4 are UHF antennas, and only happen to have some response on VHF.&nbsp; While they and other antennas have rear screens that resonant at VHF and will provide a lot of urban and suburban viewers with enough VHF response, I personally can't call them VHF antennas. 1. If size mattered that much why do the other companies sell their larger antennas. I also say size matters, when it comes to VHF where the elements are full sized dipoles.&nbsp; Electrically shortened antennas never have the gain of a full sized elements.&nbsp; Size is a perception in micro electronics that smaller must be better. Even with your innovative design of a loop and tapered elements in one, it doesn't change the laws of physics for reception. 2. True, getting on the roof, outside the indoor or attic antenna is always better for reception. Saying that improves our antenna is simply marketing. If a person needs deep fringe reception on VHF and fails on your antenna, they might give up and think the DTV transition was a failure as they bought the antenna as marked for the DTV Transition but it won't pick up VHF.3. Having been around during the period antennas became suddenly ugly, the source was not the wife but the cable TV companies.&nbsp; They mounted campaigns to local governments about ugly TV antennas.&nbsp; They also gave kickbacks to developers that put in their deed antenna restrictions for every person that signed up for cable.&nbsp;&nbsp; As a ham I know these conflicts well, fighting to be able to put up my ham antennas, where and who started the problem for me.It was their marketing that put in the heads of wives and a lot of husbands that antenna were ugly, lowered property values.&nbsp;&nbsp; It is a right to be able to put up an antenna on private property to receive the public airwaves. There are people like me that think a long boom yagi is a work of art, a sculpture of aluminum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Piggie, post: 32867, member: 2941"]I have always like loop antennas, and thought the idea behind the tapered loop was an interesting twist on the tapered dipole antenna, we used to make for more bandwidth on 80 and 40 meters. Two idea from the past incorporated into a new design. I always like that idea. It's not the antenna, your design or the engineering that causes me trouble. It is the marketing and even you stated above: We can call it semantics, but to me the C1,2,4 are UHF antennas, and only happen to have some response on VHF. While they and other antennas have rear screens that resonant at VHF and will provide a lot of urban and suburban viewers with enough VHF response, I personally can't call them VHF antennas. 1. If size mattered that much why do the other companies sell their larger antennas. I also say size matters, when it comes to VHF where the elements are full sized dipoles. Electrically shortened antennas never have the gain of a full sized elements. Size is a perception in micro electronics that smaller must be better. Even with your innovative design of a loop and tapered elements in one, it doesn't change the laws of physics for reception. 2. True, getting on the roof, outside the indoor or attic antenna is always better for reception. Saying that improves our antenna is simply marketing. If a person needs deep fringe reception on VHF and fails on your antenna, they might give up and think the DTV transition was a failure as they bought the antenna as marked for the DTV Transition but it won't pick up VHF. 3. Having been around during the period antennas became suddenly ugly, the source was not the wife but the cable TV companies. They mounted campaigns to local governments about ugly TV antennas. They also gave kickbacks to developers that put in their deed antenna restrictions for every person that signed up for cable. As a ham I know these conflicts well, fighting to be able to put up my ham antennas, where and who started the problem for me. It was their marketing that put in the heads of wives and a lot of husbands that antenna were ugly, lowered property values. It is a right to be able to put up an antenna on private property to receive the public airwaves. There are people like me that think a long boom yagi is a work of art, a sculpture of aluminum.[/QUOTE]

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