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Message: [QUOTE="Rickideemus, post: 115129, member: 12677"]If you can get something refurbished by the manufacturer, it's almost always a great deal. In the first place, items straight off the assembly line have a pretty high failure rate. Most everything is made in China nowadays, sometimes by children in hellish conditions. Thorough testing is often NOT done. Something refurbished is pretested by a consumer, and then repaired and tested some more by the manufacturer -- often in a U.S. shop by qualified professionals.Then you get anywhere from 10 to 40% off as a reward for letting someone else do all your work for you. And you normally get the same warranty and same peripherals as brand new!It's a slam dunk.Rick[/QUOTE]