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[QUOTE=&quot;Rickideemus, post: 115685, member: 12677&quot;]Not so strange. Remember, most people have no interest in OTA TV. A lot of tuners are made with cable and satellite in mind. OTA is almost an afterthought. The rendering code costs almost nothing, but the right gain control is hardware, so that's adds a few bucks.I'm not looking up &quot;HD-8008&quot; but a true omnidirectional antenna is limited to 5 dBi maximum in any direction. In fact, the best Winegard omni is down around 4 for most stations. That's one way to know that folded loop thingie isn't truly &quot;omni.&quot; That, and just looking at it.Call the station. But didn't I say to expect this? Those stations are down around the lower end for your NM range. I have several stations that pop in and out on a daily basis. This isn't like cable, where you have a &quot;right&quot; to expect the lineup you paid for.I thought you wanted something small! That's a nine footer, ya know. You really shouldn't need anything so huge. You have a few high VHF, but you don't even have any single digit stations. Size is good to a point... up to maybe 3 feet or so. You can actually calculate what size is required based on the VHF frequency. It does look like a nice price for people who need that type/size antenna for RF 2 and up.Only thing we can do is try to get some higher gain going for you, to make the weaker stations a little more reliable. I already made my recommendation, which was similar to Steve's. You can try that, or you can stick with what ya got, or you can try something much more experimental, or you can chat with Kriss for another month or two. It's your nickel.&nbsp; <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p" />layball:Rick[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="Rickideemus, post: 115685, member: 12677"]Not so strange. Remember, most people have no interest in OTA TV. A lot of tuners are made with cable and satellite in mind. OTA is almost an afterthought. The rendering code costs almost nothing, but the right gain control is hardware, so that's adds a few bucks. I'm not looking up "HD-8008" but a true omnidirectional antenna is limited to 5 dBi maximum in any direction. In fact, the best Winegard omni is down around 4 for most stations. That's one way to know that folded loop thingie isn't truly "omni." That, and just looking at it. Call the station. But didn't I say to expect this? Those stations are down around the lower end for your NM range. I have several stations that pop in and out on a daily basis. This isn't like cable, where you have a "right" to expect the lineup you paid for. I thought you wanted something small! That's a nine footer, ya know. You really shouldn't need anything so huge. You have a few high VHF, but you don't even have any single digit stations. Size is good to a point... up to maybe 3 feet or so. You can actually calculate what size is required based on the VHF frequency. It does look like a nice price for people who need that type/size antenna for RF 2 and up. Only thing we can do is [I][U]try[/U][/I] to get some higher gain going for you, to make the weaker stations a [U][I]little[/I][/U] more reliable. I already made my recommendation, which was similar to Steve's. You can try that, or you can stick with what ya got, or you can try something much more experimental, or you can chat with Kriss for another month or two. It's your nickel. :playball: Rick[/QUOTE]

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