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Message: [QUOTE="Rickideemus, post: 111953, member: 12677"]DON'T COUNT ON IT! Read it, and weep: <a href="http://www.winegard.com/kbase/upload/HD-1080.pdf">http://www.winegard.com/kbase/upload/HD-1080.pdf</a>OK, I admit I looked at half a dozen Winegard spec sheets, and that's the only exception to dBd numbers I could find. :becky:Also read your AntennaCraft link, and many of the papers cited there. Still no clue why you think their figures are minimums. I think they're averages. I suspect they're maximums! The minimum idea is the last thing that would occur to me -- unless they put it in black and white. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite28" alt=":alien:" title="Alien    :alien:" />Rick[/QUOTE]